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Herschel Walker, Raphael Warnock debate: Highlights from the Georgia race face-off

These were the biggest moments and takeaways from the U.S. Senate nominees' first and only debate ahead of the midterm elections.

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Herschel Walker and Sen. Raphael Warnock faced off tonight in their first — and only — debate ahead of Georgia's U.S. Senate election next month.

Walker, the Republican nominee, has been dogged by controversy since the start of his campaign as he seeks to unseat Warnock, the Democratic incumbent.

Our contributors tonight were MSNBC Daily editors Hayes Brown, Jarvis DeBerry and James Downie, as well as MNSBC Daily columnist Noah Rothman.

3 years ago / 8:50 PM EDT

How will the debate impact the polls? Well, keep this in mind.

The bar was set quite low for Walker, who has described himself as “not a smart man” and has been caught lying multiple times throughout his campaign. It was expected that if Walker could get through the debate without engaging in a series of headline-making gaffes, he could count it as a success.

But what impact will the debate actually have on the candidates’ positions in the polls? It’s hard to say. Keep in mind: A poll of likely Georgia voters published Wednesday showed the abortion allegation against Walker did not lead to a major shift in the polls.

The poll, conducted by Quinnipiac University, showed Warnock leading by 7 percentage points, 52% to 45%. (The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.9 percentage points.) It was nearly unchanged from last month, which showed Walker trailing by 6 percentage points.

So will Walker’s at times coherent performance give him a boost in the polls? Or could Warnock’s steady delivery cement the incumbent’s lead? Only time will tell, but the abortion scandal suggests voters have already made up their minds.

3 years ago / 8:35 PM EDT

Fact-check: Walker says Warnock votes with Biden 96% of the time

Walker repeatedly claimed that Warnock has voted in line with Biden's position on legislative issues 96% of the time — and he’s right!

According to Five Thirty Eight, the Democratic senator has voted with the president 96.4% of the time, as of Sept. 28.

It remains to be seen whether that’s as sick of a burn as Walker thinks it is. Georgia’s a purple state, meaning it doesn’t lean too heavily in one political direction. What’s for sure is how high the stakes are in this election. Control of the Senate could come down to this race.

3 years ago / 8:24 PM EDT

Why Warnock likely decided against sounding too ‘proper’

Weeks before this debate, Walker described himself as “not that smart” and made a point of mentioning Warnock’s nice suits. Yes, that was a way of lowering expectations, but it was also an effective way of calling attention to a divide that persists in the South: the divide between the educated Black people who speak what’s called “proper” and the less educated who might be considered more common, less refined people.

To be clear, the description “proper” in the Black South is rarely used as a compliment. It’s meant to convey arrogance and condescension. Warnock, who has the rhetorical skills one would expect of a southern Black Baptist pastor (one who uses those skills in Martin Luther King Jr.’s church, no less) seemed aware of coming across as condescending while debating an opponent who struggles to fluently express himself.  

Near the end of the debate, Walker, whose rural Southern accent and phrasing was quite pronounced, again made a point of bringing up Warnock’s “smooth talk,” but there was nothing particularly smooth about Warnock’s presentation. Maybe it’s because he was confronted with some tough questions he didn’t want to answer — including questions about his church evicting poor people and his ex-wife questioning his parenting — but as someone from the Black rural South who was always reminded that I was “proper,” my money’s on Warnock deciding that sounding too well spoken while next to Walker wouldn’t be a good look.

Herschel Walker, Raphael Warnock.Getty Images ; AP file
3 years ago / 8:21 PM EDT

Walker and Warnock aside, the debate format is broken

I am so torn on this, so forgive me while I work out my feelings via blog post. On the one hand, I think it’s important that candidates give voters the chance to see them side by side, debating how they view the role that would be granted to them and the policies they’d work to enact while in office. Refusals to debate your opponent are often rightly seen as a sign of weakness and inability to stand by your positions under scrutiny.

On the other hand, the modern political debate format yields very few actual insights. The performance we saw from Warnock and Walker wasn’t the worst example I’ve ever sat through, but the idea that one hour is enough time to cover the breadth and depth of issues that the American people face, and U.S. senators are required to engage with, is madness. The whiplash between topics, the inability to have a proper back-and-forth, the lack of fact-checking as things that are patently untrue are said, none of it really speaks to the seriousness of the job these men are asking to perform.

Instead, the brevity of the format doesn’t allow for much of an impact beyond judgments on the aesthetics on display, the oratorical stylings of each candidate, and the barest bones of where each stands on the bills they would either seek to enact or try to prevent in the Senate. America really deserves higher-quality debates if we’re going to keep this tradition going. And I know we’re in an era where attention spans are dwindling, but let’s be real: The sound bites we got tonight won’t even play well when chopped up on TikTok.

3 years ago / 8:17 PM EDT
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3 years ago / 8:13 PM EDT

In the end, Walker didn’t rise to the occasion. But...

It was clear almost from the beginning why Walker has been doing his darndest to lower expectations ahead of this debate. The stumbles and strange moments that might have derailed another candidate’s chances were instead by and large ho-hum — prop badge aside.

As for Warnock, the Democrat and his campaign clearly feel comfortable where they are in the polls — he played it safe on virtually every answer this evening. The hour summed up both candidates well to voters who are just tuning in, but it’s unlikely to change the trajectory of the race — and that will suit Democrats just fine.

Sen. Raphael Warnock, D-Ga., spoke to supporters Saturday in Columbus, Georgia.Megan Varner / Getty Images
3 years ago / 7:59 PM EDT

Walker does not understand how employer health care works

The list of things Walker does not understand appears to be long, but apparently one of the items on that list is health care. When asked whether Georgia should accept federal funding via a Medicare expansion to close the “coverage gap,” Walker instead said that people should be working to make sure that everyone has good health care.

Specifically, he said “if you have an able-bodied job, you have health care.” That … makes no sense, when you consider how many people who are working are still uninsured. A major reason why working Americans are uninsured is because either they are unable to afford the plans available or their employer doesn’t offer subsidized coverage because of the hours they work. Walker then accused Warnock of wanting people to be dependent on the government instead of independent, which is … wild.

Georgia GOP Senate nominee Herschel Walker makes remarks during a campaign stop at Battle Lumber Co., in Wadley, Ga., on Thursday.Meg Kinnard / AP
3 years ago / 7:58 PM EDT

Walker’s no-solution solution

Before tonight’s clash, I asked whether Walker could debate the issues. As Hayes Brown touches on, Walker’s answers on health care are showing that the answer is “no.”

Asked how he would increase access to doctors and hospitals for Georgians, Walker blamed Warnock for not already doing it, then suggested he would meet with hospital administrators. No real ideas, no concrete policies. If he does want to cross the finish line first, it’ll be on vibes alone.

Republican Senate candidate Herschel Walker holds a campaign event, in Gwinnett, Ga., on Sept. 9, 2022.Megan Varner / Getty Images file
3 years ago / 7:51 PM EDT
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3 years ago / 7:48 PM EDT

'It’s not a prop!': Walker’s most surreal moment yet

If you were caught lying that you used to be an FBI agent, you probably wouldn’t double down on that lie on television. But you are not Herschel Walker.

When Warnock pointed out that his opponent had pretended to be law enforcement (specifically, an FBI agent and a Cobb County sheriff), Walker flashed an honest-to-goodness sheriff’s badge — or at least a replica.

An already bizarre moment got even stranger when one of the moderators interrupted Walker to remind him that the debate rules prohibited props.

“It’s not a prop,” Walker protested. “It’s real!” 

Truly one of the weirdest political moments in years.

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